Second
session in 2012 of Questions/Answers on Lucifer Rebellion.
PART 3
Session 37c of 4
July 2012- recorded- English translation – Original English/French
Location: Mezza
Verde in Placencia, Belize
Present: Carole,
Cyril and Wivine in Mezza Verde.
Visitors: Tomas Teacher
Christ Michael - Jesus – Creator Son of our local
universe Nebadon.
Received
by Wivine.
Tomas spoke after
1h17min Total time meditation:
2h57min
Student : Excerpt
of the Urantia Book: (752.3) 66:8.2 It should be noted that both Lucifer and
Caligastia had been patiently instructed and lovingly warned respecting their
critical tendencies and the subtle development of their pride of self and its
associated exaggeration of the feeling of self-importance. But all of these
attempts to help had been misconstrued as unwarranted criticism and as
unjustified interference with personal liberties. Both Caligastia and Lucifer
judged their friendly advisers as being actuated by the very reprehensible
motives which were beginning to dominate their own distorted thinking and
misguided planning. They judged their unselfish advisers by their own evolving
selfishness.
Question:
I do not understand how such feelings of
narcissism, to be full of you and even encourage protesters, defying the
authority at any time... can exist in a Lanonandek Son created by Christ
Michael and Nebadonia. These feelings exist in humanity, they are found at all
levels and by evolving I suppose that they go away... but that this occurs with
Lanonandeks who are supposed to manage the evolution of humanity on a
planet.... I cannot grasp it. I do not understand and I would like if possible
that someone explains.
Tomas: Lanonandek Sons
are deployed in many situations. It is a fact that it is the Order of which the
System Sovereigns such as Lucifer and the planetary Princes such as Caligastia are chosen. The
Lanonandek Sons are a beautiful Order that emerged after the Order of the Melchizedek and the Order of the Vorondadek.
More
than 12 million Lanonandek Sons were created and they were the first students
of the “Melchizedek universities” who subdivided them into three categories:
More than
700.000 Primary Lanonandeks, candidate System Sovereign’s.
More than 10 million Secondary Lanonandeks,
candidate planetary Princes.
About one million Tertiary Lanonandeks, for administrative work.
It
is always possible that a problem arises with planetary Princes and System Sovereign’s
because it is among them that is the greatest risk. We had three rebellions in
Nebadon and this is due to the fact that these Sons receive a certain freedom
to help primitive humans evolve, to facilitate their development, whether as a
planetary Prince or a System Sovereign.
A
few cases on millions and millions of Lanonandeks do not mean that this is the
rule or a representation of the mass within their Order. In other 'local
universes' the Lanonandeks are rather limited in their scope of action. It was Christ Michael
of Nebadon who granted them more freedom and opportunities to enable
them to achieve improvements and come up with new
ideas.
These
Sons don’t receive a God Fragment like you, they are
also a little more distant from the Universal Father and less divine as the
previous Orders. Therefore, it can occur that you have one with a more proud
character than others. It is possible, and when he starts to boast his grandeur
he can become dangerous.
All
Lanonandeks are regularly scanned to see if their minds and thoughts stay faithful
to the Universe. Know that the risk of insubordination was discovered in
Lucifer and Caligastia. The danger of rebellion was indeed there and they both
received a lot of help and advice to think about changing their mind. Here also
you can see the great mercy at work of your Creator
Son Christ Michael.
When
a rebellion occurs, it explodes. Christ Michael could have destroyed his Sons
in a blink of an eye, but they were his children. Moreover he was advised not
to do so and let this extraordinary rebellion take place until all who observed
it in the Superunivers, who had sympathy for the ideas of Lucifer, would change
their minds. Up to the point where nobody was attracted anymore by these ideas
of freedom because they saw very well that this was not the right direction to
take.
This
gave a lot of hope and confirmation that the Plans of The Universal Father and
Christ Michael were excellent and that all Celestials were there for one
purpose: to help you evolve and develop your soul. You have never been without
help and now you get even more help.
Since
you have chosen to work in the 'cleaning'
and help your brethren with 'the Energy
of the Trinity', you will start already to take classes in the schools the Melchizedeks
implemented to investigate this rebellion.
Don't
forget that your destiny is to become like God - 'Perfect', if you but chose to
do so, to be able to act later in another universe era as creators on the
"outer
space worlds”.
Understand
the true destiny of Mankind on Urantia........ the
true purpose of your creation.
I
thank you for your question.
Student :
Excerpt of the Urantia Book : (753.2) 66:8.6 The
doctrine of a personal devil on Urantia, though it had some foundation in the
planetary presence of the traitorous and iniquitous Caligastia, was
nevertheless wholly fictitious in its teachings that such a “devil” could
influence the normal human mind against its free and natural choosing. Even
before Michael’s bestowal on Urantia, neither Caligastia nor Daligastia was ever able to oppress mortals or to coerce
any normal individual into doing anything against the human will. The free will
of man is supreme in moral affairs; even the indwelling Thought Adjuster
refuses to compel man to think a single thought or to perform a single act
against the choosing of man’s own will.
Question: I agree that they could not influence human
mind against the will of the human... but what when humans want to make contact
with these famous demons for personal reasons?.. Because you can find this throughout all our history...
There is even a legal “Satan” cult in the United States that sends their
missionaries here in Belize proclaiming that God does not exist and that only
Satan will save us from final destruction.
Tomas:
indeed, you have your free will. You choose what and who you want to believe.
You can decide to follow Satanism, practice black magic, follow the path of
evil and believe with persistence that The Universal Father does not exist.
You
decide to harm others and we will not describe the horrible deeds a human being
can do to his neighbor... and indeed this is how you open yourself to the
influence of darkness. It is a choice. But not one demon or benevolent spirit
may interfere with your free will, cannot go against your will.
Be
careful when you use excessively alcohol and drugs because it changes the chemistry
of your brain in such a way that you can lose control of your will and then you
take unnecessary risks...!!!
Constantly
choosing for excessive ‘evil doing' prevents the development of the soul and if
the soul is not sufficiently developed following your moral actions and loving
thoughts she may lose her chances for waking up to resurrect
on the 1rst Mansion World.
This
is of course a question of personal choice.
I
thank you for your question.
Student :
Excerpt of the Urantia Book : (754.5) 67:1.4 There
are many ways of looking at sin, but from the universe philosophic viewpoint
sin is the attitude of a personality who is knowingly resisting cosmic reality.
Error might be regarded as a misconception or distortion of reality. Evil is a
partial realization of, or maladjustment to, universe realities. But sin is a
purposeful resistance to divine reality — a conscious choosing to oppose
spiritual progress — while iniquity consists in an open and persistent defiance
of recognized reality and signifies such a degree of personality disintegration
as to border on cosmic insanity.
Question:
on the "disintegration of
personality". The "personality" is a gift of God. Is this is a
fragment of the "Great Personality of God”? Can you compare it to the
indwelling Thought Adjusters who have no personality because they are
pre-personal? And how can "personality"
disintegrate like a pottery that you drop on the ground and shatters into
pieces?
Tomas:
it is difficult to explain. Personality is
always a gift of The Universal Father or The Infinite Spirit, which She receives of The Father to give to other Celestials. The
received 'personality' cannot break and is
unique.
We
will take the example of Men. Men are composed of several parts: you have a
material body, an electrochemical mortal mind, a developing Morontia soul with
a Morontia body, you are composed of different energies or ‘energy systems’,
you receive a personality suitable for a
mortal and a Thought Adjuster.
The
personality and the Thought
Adjuster are direct gifts from God and are not annullable, but may move
away of the "composed human being" during his physical life under
certain conditions.
The
'personality' will become coordinator of the
‘composite human’. But a 'personality' can sometimes be disturbed in her
coordination work when men’s mind starts to dysfunction in such a way that she
will separate her from the ‘composite human being’. This phenomenon is known in
psychiatric hospitals because when it occurs these people are not able anymore to
integrate society.
There
is yet another element that you must take into account and that is the fact
that you need to express your 'personality'.
You must show what it is made of through your 'free will'. You are expected to
deploy your 'personality' and show your
willingness by making intellectual decisions, higher moral choices and by
acquiring ‘spiritual insight’.
These
three elements of the human "I am" and the development of the 'soul'
which are the intellect, morality and spiritual insight must grow together in a
balanced way because otherwise distorted and inharmonious conduct may occur which
may swing between the crazy spiritual fanatic up to the highly intelligent psychopath.
We
still wish to emphasize that each individual has his own growth capacity which
we, and certainly your Thought Adjuster, will take into account and we ask you
to do the same.
The
mind and ego of Lucifer were so perverted that he lost it and at the end he even
realized it. He had so much to restore that he couldn't cope with it and
finally refused the outstretched hand of Christ preferring 'de-creation'. His
received 'personality' from God has been given
to The
Supreme Being and now he only continues to live in the eternal
memory of all.
I thank
you for your question.
Student:
Tomas said that we receive our personality now after birth and even a little later. Does
this mean that in a later stage of human evolution, perhaps in the Age of Light and Life,
personality could be given earlier? During
pregnancy or even at conception?
Tomas:
you must first understand what is "personality".
God
is a Person, He is "Personality" and can provide a "personality" to any "energy system’ or ‘entity'
whether it is Physical, Morontial or Spiritual. This
received 'personality' remains in the Personality
circuitry of the Personality of The Universal Father
and every human being receives his 'unique
personality'.
Why
do you get a ‘personality’ ?
You
receive a "personality" with a free will to get eternal life because it enables
you to talk to ‘The Creator of All’ from person to person, she can decide to
submit her will to His. Something you can do from the moment you receive your indwelling
God Fragment. However, a God Fragment does not have a "personality" like you because he is ‘pre-personnel. You will give
him this gift later when you will fuse together
- The Eternal fusion of God with Man. God who gives himself to Man and Man who gives
himself to God.
A ‘personality’ knows who she is,
a personality can communicate with another personality. It is clear to one
personality that others are different from her. A human personality can join others
to work together on a project and even to create something together.
If
you had no 'personality', if you did not
have the feeling of "I am" and "you are", then you wouldn’t
talk to God. You would not be able to be friends together as you do now with
other people. You would not even feel the need to reach Him and you wouldn’t
have a free-will which allows you precisely to choose for Him and have the
desire and the will to approach Him.
When
do you receive your ‘personality’?
Let’s
talk about the current situation: your physical body is considered to be a
"complete entity" or a "complete energy system" after birth.
You
will receive your "personality"
after birth or a little later if you were born premature or when you have a
possibility of physical survival as a baby. The 'personality'
currently manifest itself in average around 3
years when children begin to feel that there is a difference between them and
the others and their 'ego' or their 'me' wants to assert itself.
When
a very young child or a baby dies after receiving its personality,
his little "soul embryo' is taken to the World of The Finaliters, where it will be cared for. These
babies and young children arrive there with their 'personality'
and will be awakened-resurrected in
the exact form they had at physical death.
They
will not have yet an “identity”. They will not yet be registered
with a number in the records of the archives of the universe. Therefore this
child will stay linked to his earthly parents and will have to wait until one
of the two or the most advanced dies on Earth and arrives on the First Mansion World to be awoken
- resuscitated and continue to grow
with his mother or his father. It is only at the moment that the child receives
its indwelling Thought
Adjuster that it will receive, just like you, an identity in the celestial Archives.
As
long as you have not received a Thought Adjuster you will not be able to
develop your 'embryonic soul' in an
adult 'Morontia
soul' and it is only and only the 'Morontia soul' that will ascend to
the Higher Celestial Worlds with her Thought Adjuster.
So,
we will let grow these babies and young children on the Finaliters World
around Jerusem and when it is their time to take their first moral decision
they will get a Thought Adjuster, just like
you. They will grow up and develop their Morontia soul and around 16 years of
age they will be able to decide freely with their received personality if they
wish to continue their path towards The Universal Father on Paradise. If they
choose to do so they will be placed on the First Mansion
World where they will go to school to continue the ascension of their
soul like you will do after your physical death.
I
thank you for your question.
We'll
finish today and will continue to answer your questions during a next session.
We recommend you to do this next week, this will give you time to think about
other issues. Thank you very much and we hope that our answers gave you
satisfaction and that they will help you in your further development. Thank you
very much and see you soon.
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